20 comments

  • pure-orange 1 hour ago
    Same energy as blaming an intern for dropping your production table. If one entity can delete all your data, that’s on your systems not them
    • madaxe_again 1 hour ago
      But we thought our files would be safe in the dumpster, nobody could have foreseen they would take out the trash.
      • don-code 14 minutes ago
        There was a point where a coworker came to my team, complaining that our policies had erased an entire week's worth of high-priority work on him.

        We asked where this happened. He had done his work on an EC2 instance named `temp-worker-5`.

        We asked where the files on that EC2 instance were; maybe we could cleverly get them back off the disk. They were in `/tmp`. We had it mounted on tmpfs (in memory), and we were running tmpreaper to clean out `/tmp` every Sunday.

        When presented with the sheer absurdity of doing work on an instance called `temp`, out of a directory called `/tmp`, he backed down...

        I fear that we wouldn't be so lenient (or rational) on my team had an AI agent done this - we'd have to enable the AI, after all.

        • x0z 11 minutes ago
          Absolutely incredible self preservation instinct from your colleague on behalf of their work. Like playing Russian roulette fully loaded lol
    • shakna 1 hour ago
      Most interns would not be dumb enough to try it. Because there would be consequences, and there is training. The pre-trained entity, that everyone has been screaming is as smart as your intern, though?
      • JumpCrisscross 1 hour ago
        > Most interns would not be dumb enough to try it

        Not an intern, but when I was a new hire on a trading desk I dropped the dividend database that we used to price options. Cost the desk a boatload before we stopped offering quotes, after which the day was a total loss. That’s the sort of fuckup that lands in the CEO’s report.

        I understood what I did ex post facto, it was an honest—if stupid—mistake, I expected to get fired and instead was given everyone’s shit work for six months during which I learned a tonne. One of my tasks was redesigning the system so a single careless keystroke couldn’t do that during the trading day.

  • mkl 1 hour ago
    Production company doesn't bother backing up hundreds of days of work, blames irresponsibly used AI for its own failure.
    • dspillett 1 hour ago
      Doesn't back it up properly. There are too many people, otherwise bright and professional, who do not realise that simply syncing to somewhere else is not an adequate backup arrangement.

      This problem predates agent based work. Anything an AI agent can accidentally do, malware could purposefully do too, as could a sufficiently careless human (one of the things my backups are intended to protect me from, is me!).

    • agilob 1 hour ago
      Pixar lost Toy Story 2, deleted by mistake https://www.slashgear.com/how-pixars-toy-story-2-was-deleted...
      • suddenclarity 1 hour ago
        Should be mentioned that this was in the 90s with one of the first computer-animated feature films. We're missing the source code for a ton of games from that era as well. I would assume people had learned to have proper backups 30 years later - especially so with the advantage of high speed internet.
        • glimshe 47 minutes ago
          This is actually one of the goals of some retro computing enthusiasts: recovering the source code for old games through AI reverse engineering.

          I know it's not the same thing because you lose comments, unused prototypes etc, but I still find it a fascinating use of the technology.

  • verytrivial 1 hour ago
    Okay, but was it actually almost finished and ready? People can act unpredictably[1] under pressure instead of asking for help.

    It very probably was, but it just reminded me of this oversight failure mode.

    [1] https://thedailywtf.com/articles/the_brillant_paula_bean

    • stingraycharles 1 hour ago
      Tangent, but I’m so happy this site is still around! Haven’t checked it in at least a decade, this should be a goldmine.
      • lmz 6 minutes ago
        Its heyday was pre-LLM so a good reminder that shit code existed before LLMs, wtitten by people paid to do so.
  • s0ja 1 hour ago
    Impossible to read the website let alone configure cookies.
  • kaon_2 1 hour ago
    I always thought that delete doesn't really exist? In the sense that it you take the hard drive to a specialist they can often recover it? Maybe I am wrong?
    • dspillett 1 hour ago
      You aren't wrong, but getting a specialist to look at it in a tight timeframe is expensive. Free tools exist, but if you've not already learned how to use them the time that you need them is a bad time to start. Anything you do with the machine after the delete can reduce the amount you are able to get back, so you should very quickly shut down (avoiding saving anything locally). The situation can be worse with SSDs, depending on how eager your OS/filesystem is at TRIMing deallocated blocks.
    • sublimefire 1 hour ago
      You could ask the agent to attempt to recover using specific tools. But yes in some cases the bits could be lost without the ability to recover, there are ways to destroyy data as it is usually required for decommissioning
    • jamesnorden 1 hour ago
      It depends on which sectors have been overwritten, really.
  • PinguTS 1 hour ago
    No backup, no mercy.
  • lensecat 2 hours ago
    • weird-eye-issue 1 hour ago
      Wow presumably it's a cookie pop-up on mobile has thousands of pixels of empty vertical space so you have to scroll all the way down, what a mess lol
    • 9346830293 1 hour ago
      [dead]
  • suddenclarity 1 hour ago
    Modern version of "the dog ate my homework"? I can't even imagine a scenario where an AI agent manages to unrecoverably delete all working material and backups. I'm cynical and can't help thinking it's all marketing to postpone a reality show no one cared about.
  • dumberquestions 1 hour ago
    How easily can files completely disappear just like that? You usually have to be very intentional about it to make even a partial recovery impossible.
    • deno 1 hour ago
      Yeah, just stop writes and get someone that can use photorec of similar. It's not the end of the world unless you do something stupid.

      But who knows what the agent was trying to do. It could really have decided the TV show was so bad no one should see it. There's no details.

      Or it's bad and it's tax evasion.

      • giantg2 1 hour ago
        "It's not the end of the world unless you do something stupid."

        Or intentional

      • BoxOfRain 1 hour ago
        > It could really have decided the TV show was so bad no one should see it.

        Fair play to the vendor of the agent if that were true, they've invented a model which instead of producing slop goes around erasing it. I approve!

      • madaxe_again 1 hour ago
        The agent pulled out the hard drives and then stomped on them, before putting them in a bucket of magnets and acid.

        It also duct taped their IT staff to their chairs and prevented them from taking any backups of their core IP.

  • ethin 1 hour ago
    All these "accidents" with agents just makes me want to use them less, not more. Then again, I don't use agents because they consume tokens at an absurd rate, so...
  • INTPenis 1 hour ago
    This is the same as using commands like rm the wrong way. The agent didn't do it, you did it! You didn't use the agent/tool properly!
  • traktorn 1 hour ago
    In your face AI Doomers! The AI is creating more jobs!
  • GaryBluto 1 hour ago
    Could dang or tomhow manually decontract the title?
  • deno 1 hour ago
    If the title was "TV studio does not have backups" this would be a non-story. The fact it was deleted by agent and not human doesn't really matter.
    • eviks 1 hour ago
      It does matter because more people use agents and don't expect such rogue behavior. Plus there is more novelty, which "news" is somewhat related to. But regular human destruction also gets published and discussed
    • duttish 1 hour ago
      Yea this.

      Agents doesn't cause new problems, they reveal existing weaknesses.

      Proper working backups. Proper IAM setup. With agents things can go wrong so much faster, the margins for allowed systemic/tech debt are shrinking.

      • cbg0 1 hour ago
        > Agents doesn't cause new problems, they reveal existing weaknesses.

        Agents absolutely can and will cause (new) problems if they are unsupervised even with guard rails in place.

        • duttish 1 hour ago
          Hm, what guard rails are needed for agents that aren't needed for humans if you want to handle insider risk properly?
    • nottorp 1 hour ago
      Except these people aren't developers, they make movies?

      And if you trust "AI" marketing, it will take all our jobs and do them better than us.

      You're probably a regular tech news reader and are aware of the limitations, while they aren't.

      • Ukv 1 hour ago
        > Except these people aren't developers, they make movies?

        A production company should 100% have regular backups, even moreso than the average developer.

  • glimshe 42 minutes ago
    Doesn't sound so bad if rephrased as "AI prevents the release of yet another reality show"
  • dist-epoch 1 hour ago
    If they were stored in S3, or a similar service, and the agents deletes them, there is no way to recover them, right?

    I know google has some manual process (forms) to request "undeletion" of personal Google Drive files.

    • rglover 1 hour ago
      If you have bucket versioning enabled you should still be able to recover something.
  • jd24 1 hour ago
    smells like bs